Full Version: EUREKA! umm no not really i just found out something.
nvm...
Eureka does mean I've found something. It is greek, literaly meaning "I have found it!" It was made famus by the ancient greek mathmatician Archimedes.
The story goes: Archimedes was asked to solve a problem involving a crown which someone had sold the king of Sicily claiming it was solid gold. However, the king came to suspect that the crown was not solid gold, but he wasn't sure so, he asked his subject, Archimedes, to figure out a way to prove weather it was gold or not. Archimedes strugled with this problem for months. He eventualy solved the problem, while he was in his bath.
He ran to tell the king of his discorvery. However, he had forgoten to put on his clothes. He ran completly naked through the streets shouting "Eureka! Eureka!" or in english "I have found it! I have found it." He was quite the spectical.
If you want to hear about his discovery, and how the matter of the kings crown turned out, just say so and I'll post it
I hope I didn't bore you all too much:wink:.
The story goes: Archimedes was asked to solve a problem involving a crown which someone had sold the king of Sicily claiming it was solid gold. However, the king came to suspect that the crown was not solid gold, but he wasn't sure so, he asked his subject, Archimedes, to figure out a way to prove weather it was gold or not. Archimedes strugled with this problem for months. He eventualy solved the problem, while he was in his bath.
He ran to tell the king of his discorvery. However, he had forgoten to put on his clothes. He ran completly naked through the streets shouting "Eureka! Eureka!" or in english "I have found it! I have found it." He was quite the spectical.
If you want to hear about his discovery, and how the matter of the kings crown turned out, just say so and I'll post it
I hope I didn't bore you all too much:wink:.
(Grey_DawnIII)
Eureka does mean I've found something. It is greek, literaly meaning "I have found it!" It was made famus by the ancient greek mathmatician Archimedes.
The story goes: Archimedes was asked to solve a problem involving a crown which someone had sold the king of Sicily claiming it was solid gold. However, the king came to suspect that the crown was not solid gold, but he wasn't sure so, he asked his subject, Archimedes, to figure out a way to prove weather it was gold or not. Archimedes strugled with this problem for months. He eventualy solved the problem, while he was in his bath.
He ran to tell the king of his discorvery. However, he had forgoten to put on his clothes. He ran completly naked through the streets shouting "Eureka! Eureka!" or in english "I have found it! I have found it." He was quite the spectical.
If you want to hear about his discovery, and how the matter of the kings crown turned out, just say so and I'll post it
I hope I didn't bore you all too much:wink:.
The story goes: Archimedes was asked to solve a problem involving a crown which someone had sold the king of Sicily claiming it was solid gold. However, the king came to suspect that the crown was not solid gold, but he wasn't sure so, he asked his subject, Archimedes, to figure out a way to prove weather it was gold or not. Archimedes strugled with this problem for months. He eventualy solved the problem, while he was in his bath.
He ran to tell the king of his discorvery. However, he had forgoten to put on his clothes. He ran completly naked through the streets shouting "Eureka! Eureka!" or in english "I have found it! I have found it." He was quite the spectical.
If you want to hear about his discovery, and how the matter of the kings crown turned out, just say so and I'll post it
I hope I didn't bore you all too much:wink:.
Hey, the arcane historical post is MY specialty!!!!!!
:keelyou!: :bonk:
JK... :wink: :heart: :agreement:
Go ahead and finish the story!!!
(Archie hits the king over the head with the crown and kills him, proclaims himself superarchon and tyrant, and executes all his enemies)
(Virtus_Probi)
Hey, the arcane historical post is MY specialty!!!!!!
:keelyou!: :bonk:
JK... :wink: :heart: :agreement:
Go ahead and finish the story!!!
(Archie hits the king over the head with the crown and kills him, proclaims himself superarchon and tyrant, and executes all his enemies)
:keelyou!: :bonk:
JK... :wink: :heart: :agreement:
Go ahead and finish the story!!!
(Archie hits the king over the head with the crown and kills him, proclaims himself superarchon and tyrant, and executes all his enemies)
heh heh... I found out that everyone was always getting the cheese hat cheat code wrong, its not green bay backers its green bay packers
Alright I'll finish it. (That's not quite the way it ends:wink:.)
Alright here's what Archimedes discovered in his bath, that was so important he forgot to put on his clothes: When Archimedes hat sat down in his bath, he noticed that the water level had gone up. He'd never noticed this before so he stood up. The water level went down. He sat back down, and the water level went back up. After repeating this process varius ways several diffrent times, he figured out a very important piece of physics: When an object is placed in water, it displaces it a volume of water eaqual to its own.
After figuring this out, Archimedes remembered that the king had told him that he suspected that the theif had mixed in silver with the gold, in such a way to make the crown appear to solid gold, while it was mainly silver. Archimedes also remembered that silver is slighter than gold. Then he ran out of the bath house and to the king in the manner discribed in the last post
When he arrived at the palace, the guards were to suprised at seeing a naked man running down the street shouting he had found something, that they didn't manage to stop him from entering the throne room. Once was inside the throne room, he said "Your majesty, I have solved your problem!"
The king then notified him that he wasn't wearing any clothes. At that moment Archimedes' poor little servant, who had been chasing him through the streets trying to give him his robes, ran into the throne room and threw them around Archimedes.
After everyone was settled down Archimedes presented his solution. He asked for two large buckets and two large water basins. He then filled the buckets to the brim with water and placed them in the center of the basins. Then Archimedes asked the king how much gold was allegedly used in the making of the crown. The king said that he had payed for a crown made of 13 pounds of gold. Archimedes then asked that 13 pounds of gold be dropped in one of the buckets, and the crown be dropped in the other. Since the buckets were completely full of water some of it overflowed in to the basins.
Archimedes then mesured the amount of water in each basin. The basin that contained the bucket that held the crown had more water in it than the other.
Archimedes then informed the king that his crown was indeed false, because if it had been made of 13 pounds of gold it would have displaced the same amount of water a the 13 pounds did. However since the person who made and sold the crown to the king had used silver and gold to make the crown it was larger, because silver is lighter than gold and the theif had had to use more silver than he would have used gold, becuase the crown needed to whiegh 13 pounds.
The theif was found gulilty and banished. Good story, no? :wink:
Alright here's what Archimedes discovered in his bath, that was so important he forgot to put on his clothes: When Archimedes hat sat down in his bath, he noticed that the water level had gone up. He'd never noticed this before so he stood up. The water level went down. He sat back down, and the water level went back up. After repeating this process varius ways several diffrent times, he figured out a very important piece of physics: When an object is placed in water, it displaces it a volume of water eaqual to its own.
After figuring this out, Archimedes remembered that the king had told him that he suspected that the theif had mixed in silver with the gold, in such a way to make the crown appear to solid gold, while it was mainly silver. Archimedes also remembered that silver is slighter than gold. Then he ran out of the bath house and to the king in the manner discribed in the last post
When he arrived at the palace, the guards were to suprised at seeing a naked man running down the street shouting he had found something, that they didn't manage to stop him from entering the throne room. Once was inside the throne room, he said "Your majesty, I have solved your problem!"
The king then notified him that he wasn't wearing any clothes. At that moment Archimedes' poor little servant, who had been chasing him through the streets trying to give him his robes, ran into the throne room and threw them around Archimedes.
After everyone was settled down Archimedes presented his solution. He asked for two large buckets and two large water basins. He then filled the buckets to the brim with water and placed them in the center of the basins. Then Archimedes asked the king how much gold was allegedly used in the making of the crown. The king said that he had payed for a crown made of 13 pounds of gold. Archimedes then asked that 13 pounds of gold be dropped in one of the buckets, and the crown be dropped in the other. Since the buckets were completely full of water some of it overflowed in to the basins.
Archimedes then mesured the amount of water in each basin. The basin that contained the bucket that held the crown had more water in it than the other.
Archimedes then informed the king that his crown was indeed false, because if it had been made of 13 pounds of gold it would have displaced the same amount of water a the 13 pounds did. However since the person who made and sold the crown to the king had used silver and gold to make the crown it was larger, because silver is lighter than gold and the theif had had to use more silver than he would have used gold, becuase the crown needed to whiegh 13 pounds.
The theif was found gulilty and banished. Good story, no? :wink:
cool story
Thank you. It's one of my favorites.
I think that Archimedes should have gotten to keep one of the crowns...even a 13 lb silver crown with gilding on it is pretty nice.
My favorite story from ancient history is about a Roman emperor named Carus. He was invading Persia and envoys arrived to negotiate. The Persians were well dressed aristocrats and couldn't believe it when they were brought to a man who looked like a common soldier sitting by a stew pot...but, then they noticed the purple cloak (paladumentum) of an emperor lying on the ground next to him. Carus invited the envoys to dig into some of the bean and bacon stew he was dining on, and they declined in horror. Carus told the men that their visit was at an end, except there was one message they needed to bring back...he removed his Illyrian cap and pointed to his bald head, and said to tell the shah that his beautiful country would soon look like Carus' bald pate if he didn't give in.
And, coins from the time show that Carus was, in fact, bald, one of the few Roman emperors who would admit to it (many wore wigs). The bad thing about Carus is that he had my favorite emperor, Probus, murdered...
My favorite story from ancient history is about a Roman emperor named Carus. He was invading Persia and envoys arrived to negotiate. The Persians were well dressed aristocrats and couldn't believe it when they were brought to a man who looked like a common soldier sitting by a stew pot...but, then they noticed the purple cloak (paladumentum) of an emperor lying on the ground next to him. Carus invited the envoys to dig into some of the bean and bacon stew he was dining on, and they declined in horror. Carus told the men that their visit was at an end, except there was one message they needed to bring back...he removed his Illyrian cap and pointed to his bald head, and said to tell the shah that his beautiful country would soon look like Carus' bald pate if he didn't give in.
And, coins from the time show that Carus was, in fact, bald, one of the few Roman emperors who would admit to it (many wore wigs). The bad thing about Carus is that he had my favorite emperor, Probus, murdered...
So, who was Probus?
Well, he was really just one of a line of soldier-emperors in what is sometimes called the "military chaos" period of the Roman empire. The empire was under severe pressure from barbarians along the Rhine and Danube and from the Sasanian (Persian) empire in the East, and had started to fragment. An emperor named Claudius (not the one from the BBC series, this is 200 years later) started a reversal in fortune by annihilating a Gothic army in the Balkans and earning himself the name Claudius Gothicus, but he then died of the plague. A general named Aurelian became emperor and proceeded to recover Gaul (France), Britain, Egypt, and Syria for the empire and expel barbarians from Italy in a series of brilliant campaigns. He defeated the Palmyrene empress Zenobia, and the showdown between the tough old Roman general and the cunning Eastern beauty has fascinated historians ever since.
Aurelian was murdered by his own staff, and the top general in the East, Probus, seized power. The situation in the empire was still chaotic, and Probus was able to restore it mostly to tranquility in his reign from 272-282AD. He is most famous for completely expelling barbarians from Gaul and even taking the fight across the Rhine and Danube to the barbarian homelands. He also annihilated invaders in Egypt and intimidated the Sasanian shah into a favorable peace (some sources claim there was a battle). While preparing for a massive attack on the Sasanians, he put the soldiers to work on public works projects, which they hated, and also spoke of being able to disband the armies to save the people a great expense after this last campaign.
This was a bit much for the army, and the praetorian prefect (commander of the bodyguard) Carus was able to exploit the situation and have Probus murdered. The Romans were still itching for revenge against the Sasanians, who had captured and eventually killed an earlier Roman emperor named Valerian, and Carus took advantage of Probus' preparations and invaded Mesopotamia (this is the campaign the story comes from). The Sasanians were busy with a civil war, and Carus easily took the Sasanian capital of Ctesiphon. He then died under very mysterious circumstances...the historians say he was struck by lightning, which was a very bad omen to the Romans, a sign that Jupiter was angry.
These men were very different from the early Roman emperors in that they were not aristocrats...the military challenges of the period led to the strongest generals forcing themselves into the position of emperor, instead of a more polite succession being arranged through the Senate ahead of time by the previous emperor. The generals themselves had to be Senators in the early empire, but that had also been abandoned in favor of the best soldiers being promoted while the aristocrats stayed in Rome and enjoyed their wealth.
If you ever read "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" by Gibbon or the somewhat bogus "Augustan History" from ancient time, you will see that Probus is made out the be the true hero of the recovery of the empire, the best and most virtuous emperor of his time. Aurelian probably really deserves most of the credit for the recovery, though. I became interested in Probus through coins...his are relatively inexpensive and much more interesting than most of that period, with very fancy busts of the emperor wearing different military and consular outfits. He seemed to be trying to project an image of himself as a strong military man who also respected the traditions of the empire. "Probus" is actually a Latin word roughly meaning honest, upright, fair, and the English word "probity" derives from it. The Latin historians were fond of saying that Probus was, indeed, a man of probity.
There is an excellent bust of Probus in the Capitoline Museum by the Forum...you can't touch it, though, I got in trouble for that.
http://en.museicapitolini.org/percorsi/per...tratto_di_probo
Aurelian was murdered by his own staff, and the top general in the East, Probus, seized power. The situation in the empire was still chaotic, and Probus was able to restore it mostly to tranquility in his reign from 272-282AD. He is most famous for completely expelling barbarians from Gaul and even taking the fight across the Rhine and Danube to the barbarian homelands. He also annihilated invaders in Egypt and intimidated the Sasanian shah into a favorable peace (some sources claim there was a battle). While preparing for a massive attack on the Sasanians, he put the soldiers to work on public works projects, which they hated, and also spoke of being able to disband the armies to save the people a great expense after this last campaign.
This was a bit much for the army, and the praetorian prefect (commander of the bodyguard) Carus was able to exploit the situation and have Probus murdered. The Romans were still itching for revenge against the Sasanians, who had captured and eventually killed an earlier Roman emperor named Valerian, and Carus took advantage of Probus' preparations and invaded Mesopotamia (this is the campaign the story comes from). The Sasanians were busy with a civil war, and Carus easily took the Sasanian capital of Ctesiphon. He then died under very mysterious circumstances...the historians say he was struck by lightning, which was a very bad omen to the Romans, a sign that Jupiter was angry.
These men were very different from the early Roman emperors in that they were not aristocrats...the military challenges of the period led to the strongest generals forcing themselves into the position of emperor, instead of a more polite succession being arranged through the Senate ahead of time by the previous emperor. The generals themselves had to be Senators in the early empire, but that had also been abandoned in favor of the best soldiers being promoted while the aristocrats stayed in Rome and enjoyed their wealth.
If you ever read "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" by Gibbon or the somewhat bogus "Augustan History" from ancient time, you will see that Probus is made out the be the true hero of the recovery of the empire, the best and most virtuous emperor of his time. Aurelian probably really deserves most of the credit for the recovery, though. I became interested in Probus through coins...his are relatively inexpensive and much more interesting than most of that period, with very fancy busts of the emperor wearing different military and consular outfits. He seemed to be trying to project an image of himself as a strong military man who also respected the traditions of the empire. "Probus" is actually a Latin word roughly meaning honest, upright, fair, and the English word "probity" derives from it. The Latin historians were fond of saying that Probus was, indeed, a man of probity.
There is an excellent bust of Probus in the Capitoline Museum by the Forum...you can't touch it, though, I got in trouble for that.
http://en.museicapitolini.org/percorsi/per...tratto_di_probo
QUOTE (thepatrick @ Aug 2 2007, 03:54 PM) 
heh heh... I found out that everyone was always getting the cheese hat cheat code wrong, its not green bay backers its green bay packers
Green Bay Backers I can't believe that as a dedicated fan of Green Bay Packers since I was born (I was named after the most famous Green Bay quarterback ever, Brett Favre.... but now he's at their biggest rivals team the Minnesota Vikings) but any ways I'm am truly appalled
. btw it's called "Peronto's Cheesehead of Emerald Bay" 
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